New issue
Have a question about this project? Sign up for a free GitHub account to open an issue and contact its maintainers and the community.
By clicking “Sign up for GitHub”, you agree to our terms of service and privacy statement. We’ll occasionally send you account related emails.
Already on GitHub? Sign in to your account
Vote on topics for future CNCF Technology Radars #35
Comments
Cheryl, I've done this type of project before. Here are a few suggestions:
|
And, in response to a tweet from @caniszczyk, I think the results should be made publicly available with the CNCF providing value to its members by only letting its end user community participate in making the ratings. Of course, I don't have insight into the membership sales pitch, so take that idea for what it's worth. |
This is an activity meant for CNCF End Users who are actually running these projects in production and share this information amongst each other in a safe environment where there are no vendors, it's by design we do it this way. It is a membership benefit of becoming an official CNCF End User :) |
@LawrenceHecht I appreciate the comments!
+1, it's definitely a point in time exercise.
The CNCF end users review the draft before it is released. Each radar will feature a different set of projects depending on the use case, so each technology will be assessed anew each time.
Also +1. I've already had people ask how they can get their project on the radar.
Some of the end users don't have legal/PR permission to publicly state what they use, hence CNCF can publish only aggregrated and anonymized results. |
I like the content, but PDFs are not a useful output medium for this kind of thing (imho). |
@travis-sobeck you mean the graphic? What don't you like about it? |
@oicheryl The problem with a PDF is that it's not interactive. If I'm looking at a graphic with data points, I want to be able to click on the data points to see the source, think of a Grafana graph (or anything similar). Or at a minimum, a link to a specific line on a spreadsheet/webpage with the data. Which is the problem with a PDF, its just one monolithic thing. I want to send a link to someone else to a specific piece of info, not the whole monolithic thing. |
@travis-sobeck Got it, I'd absolutely love to make it more interactive. As the very first tech radar it's intentionally a bare bones MVP, but we can add all sorts of bells and whistles over time. I really want to make this a useful resource for the wider community, so very happy to get the feedback and improve! |
@oicheryl Yeah, that's fair. |
I would be interested to know what end users recommend for monitoring solutions :) |
@oicheryl very nice and useful initiative Would be great to see this for:
|
Great insight and very useful. Voting for future ideas:
|
Love the concept! Flux was buried in my long list of things to check out and this moved it up towards the top.
|
@povilasv @gadinaor @KellyGriffin @jcwinchell I've noted your votes - please keep them coming! |
+1 for:
|
Nice job Cheryl! +1 for:
|
Great concept! +1 for :
|
|
+1 for:
|
Hi @oicheryl - this is brilliant! As discussed in the TOC call (and wanted to capture here), I think it would be very valuable to also have a radar that focused on technology types (as opposed to specific projects) e.g. different runtimes vs serverless or perhaps different types storage (e.g. object vs file vs block vs KV vs database), as that would provide an indicator for where SIGs need to focus on. (This would be similar to the Techniques quadrant in the example on slide 6 in your deck). In terms of votes for the next focus areas:
|
Cheers @chira001 and yes, the Radar format could absolutely be extended to techniques or technology types. It's getting hard to track so let's do this a bit differently. I'll post one topic per comment, and then people can 👍 the ones they want to see. If you think of something that's not listed, you can add another comment. |
Incident management |
Log management |
Monitoring |
Performance monitoring |
Security |
Service Mesh |
Serverless |
Virtualization |
Requirements management |
Chaos Engineering |
As you mentioned: a single radar is a point-in-time exercise but one of the the key benefits comes from seeing the trajectory of those blips over time to get an idea of a project's uptake and stability. Just my 2 cents but I'd suggest it would be worth standardising on a number of radar topics and revisiting them regularly. |
Service Mesh +1 |
1 similar comment
Service Mesh +1 |
Thanks @epowell101 for sharing, note that the data for this radar comes entirely from the CNCF End User Community. (See "About the methodology" on https://www.cncf.io/blog/2020/06/12/introducing-the-cncf-technology-radar/.) You could encourage OpenEBS end users to join https://www.cncf.io/people/end-user-community/ to make sure your project is represented. Thanks @rootsongjc @GladiusK - please also 👍 this comment so I can track: #35 (comment) |
|
|
|
@oicheryl Hi! First of all, I want to say thanks for your article and podcast at "The New Stack Makers". |
Hi @Asgoret, this is an example of the comments/small article you mean right? https://www.thoughtworks.com/radar/platforms?blipid=202005041 The Radar is the aggregated opinion of the whole community, so I thought it wouldn't be right to present a single justification when the companies represented can have very different reasons. Some of the companies in the End User Community (EUC) have shared their reasons for choosing one technology over another, but as it is not a legal/PR approved public statement, this information is confidential within the EUC. If you are at an End User company (don't sell cloud native products or services) then you can join the EUC to get access to this information: https://www.cncf.io/endusersupporter |
Kubernetes Installers to use would be a good topic |
+1 for storage |
Ingress Controller |
Cost Allocation |
Zalando open sourced their version of the thoughtworks tech radar (which is also open source): => You could use this to have a more interactive version of the radar. |
@mischapedia Zalando's tech radar was one of the original inspirations! We are building a new interactive portal which will include more information about the projects and the data behind the radar. Stay tuned... |
Autoscaling |
|
Developer productivity ? |
Security & Compliance |
It would be great to see the CNCF Technology Radar cover the left-to-right, from developer to production environment, all modern, commodity and specialist tooling inspired by the CNCF Landscape: What this looks like in practice from the top of my head as a very much a lean pipeline:
..and much more (like most of the above in this thread). |
We (App Delivery) would find it useful to have a Technology Radar covering Operators (as we are currently working on a Whitepaper), so e.g. which frameworks end-users are using and wich problems they solve/face using operators. |
Latest proposed topics by the tech radar team:
|
Awesome, anything on service mesh? :o?
…On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 10:44 AM Katie Gamanji ***@***.***> wrote:
Latest proposed topics by the tech radar team:
- Security and secret management
- On-prem cluster management
- Governance and compliance
- Storage and persistent volumes
- Cost management and optimization
—
You are receiving this because you were mentioned.
Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub
<#35 (comment)>,
or unsubscribe
<https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AAAPSIKHQFNZH4DMX2ABK53SY4Y75ANCNFSM4N4JUKMQ>
.
--
Cheers,
Chris Aniszczyk
http://aniszczyk.org
+1 512 961 6719
|
Nothing on service mesh this time, but maybe the future tech radar teams will choose it as a topic :) |
I know services meshes are a hot topic, but cloud native penguins would also love to see one on fishing meshes |
Looking forward to seeing the Sevice Mesh Radar. |
Service Mesh Radar could be interesting |
Closing this issue with a new process and Radar being brainstormed (more information coming in 2023 Q3). |
If you are interested in learning what end users recommend for a cloud native use case, add a comment below or +1 to vote. Examples could be categories from the CNCF Landscape, or industry verticals such as financial services.
Topics will be selected quarterly by the editorial team as the basis for a CNCF Technology Radar.
More information at https://github.com/cncf/enduser-public/blob/master/CNCFTechnologyRadar.pdf
The text was updated successfully, but these errors were encountered: